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IN HIS OWN WORDS

Saule Suleimenova: "I thought my dad was a magician"

Author: Gulmira_K 
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Being in the art studio is already magic, and there is also a conversation with amazing people - the artist Saule Suleimenova and her father Timur Bimashevich, the president of the Union of Designers of Kazakhstan. Literally ten minutes, and you fall into captivity of interesting stories. Total - three hours of conversation about art, artists and architects, old Alma-Ata and father's love for his daughter.
Saule: I'm just sure that art is not toys, jewelry, or ponies. This is the present. And it's not necessary to invent something new. 
I subscribe to every word of the Slovenian culturologist Slavoja Zizek, who went to the garbage dump and showed that all the garbage that we produce is part of our life. This is our life. And even if we prefer to fence off from it and not notice, it does not mean that it disappears from our life. When we love a person, we love him completely and with all the shortcomings and weaknesses. We fully accept it, this is called love. So try to love yourself and your nature with all the waste, he says. Then the need for ecology disappears, which today, in its categorical and fanaticism, is more and more like a religion. Then there will be harmony.
And I'm just thinking: beauty, what is it? For example, beauty in a woman - it's not necessarily a Hollywood smile, chest and priest? For a small child who does not yet think stereotypes, the most beautiful woman in the world is his mother. You know, I was recently at the TEDx conference and there it was necessary to choose a badge with some wording - "smart", "successful" and so on. While I was walking back and forth, my daughter took for me the badge "beautiful". Do you understand? It's like that.
Beautiful is all around. All that is needed is to change the angle of view in order to see it. Today we have so many visual impressions, especially on the Internet. Every day we are rubbing something, a lot of people are imposing an opinion on what is valuable, what is beautiful. We have not even thought about it, but we've already been explained everything - what is beauty, love, happiness.
Timur Bimashevich: Saulesha - she is so open, in her - sincere cleanliness. It's like a white sheet, like a litmus paper. Everything I do is custom-made, personal, in design, in architecture, I always show it to her. I'll draw something, I immediately send it to the desk, I ask you to see it. I share with Saulesha everything, and it is very important for me to hear her opinion. In the same way, I try to perceive it. I see everything that she does, I feel and feel where this energy comes from, and so I like all this! At the same time, I'm terribly incomprehensible and astonishing is the energy that is blazing in it. And I already like this picture - this is the bike, and this road is Sauleshin's road to the future (it's a picture of Saule Suleimenova's "Kyrgyz Pastoral").
Saule: How beautiful, Dad! I always ask my dad, it is very important for me that he share his opinion. Recently he left, so I cut off the phones ( laughs ). In general, even my husband can be jealous of my father. I love him immensely. He is a magical man. I kept my childhood convinced that my dad was a magician.
He always drew. Dad is a brilliant draftsman. And when I was little, I always sat and looked at his hand. It was magic. And the only thing that I managed well was the scissors.
Timur Bimashevich:Saulesha watched and was in touch with me. And not only with me, but with my mother. It was a woman who was never calm, and here is the energy that is in Saulesh - these are grandmother's genes. She always had her hands full, she did it. She sewed magnificent blankets, and made it all almost blind (she had poor eyesight - around -18). She was engaged in patchwork sewing, what the Kazakhs call oyu өrnek, practically to the touch. Mom had some incredible flair, she knew the secret of perfection - the balance of the background and the pattern. By the way, by her ability to sew she saved us from hunger - she wore blankets and sold them. And my mother lost sight when she was about 30 years old. In those settlements where we were expelled (behind ALZHIR), malaria spread. In those days, they treated her with hina. We did not get Hina, we gave out quinine. And people get rid of quinine.
Saule: Now all the Suleimenovs on the female line have problems with sight. My dad's sisters, I have, and my oldest daughter Swinbike.
Timur Bimashevich: So, my daughter was sitting next to me at the drawing table, and on it - a pile of pencils and markers.
Saule: That's it! There were no such people in Alma-Ata. You know, they had such a good covering ability. How I loved them!
Timur Bimashevich: I collected all sorts of tools, and still I have this terrible passion and professional greed ( laughs ).
Saule: And what kind of daddy gave me luxurious tools! He always gave what you dream about and think that this is impossible. On my 16th birthday gave me an incredible set - it had pastel greasy, pastel dry, a set of watercolors, a set of oil, oil paints and watercolors, and paper torchon, and cardboard. Before that, we were walking around the workshops with my friend Almushka (Kazakhstan artist Alma Menlibaeva - editor's note ) and begging from the artists: give me that I do not mind. And here such a gift! That was incredible.
In the architectural, I followed my father. He, incidentally, did not know about this, I secretly filed the documents. I was already quite old, I was 20 years old. My friends told me then, if you are not a hopeless baleski, you will stand up and finish your studies until the end, despite the fact that studies there are very complicated.
In general, if you look at architectural education there are many progressive people. Do you know that everyone in the Pink Floyd group is an architect? Quentin Tarantino, Makarevich, many directors, musicians - by education architects. Architectural education teaches to think spatially.
And I went to act secretly, because I was afraid that my father would swear. And yet, in fact, I could not draw (and still do not know how, painting - it's about what I think pictures, and not draw). And on the introductory it was necessary to draw a plaster head. We stole a plaster head from Zhurgenovka with Almushka (it seems it was Socrates), dragged her home and trained on it. Alma taught me how to draw. And then, when I came to take exams, the teachers - my father's friends, helped me as best they could. Because I did not have an academic education, I was kicked out of art school with a scandal. So, I'm sitting, drawing, and Alim Ravilevich Sabitov passes and says: "here and here, make it darker." After Wojciechowski: "here you have a line here."
Timur Bimashevich: And the theme for your thesis you took the themes of my main work.
Saule: My father was engaged in Turkestan for 15 years, landscaping around the mausoleum of Khoja Ahmet Yassaui. And the theme of my thesis work is an ethnomorial park next to the mausoleum.
Timur Bimashevich: The hardest part was that she was defending herself, and I was the chairman of the commission.
Saule: It was horrible. My classmates, when they found out that the pope would be the chairman of the commission, announced to me a boycott. And in such a deaf psychological silence I was preparing my project. Everyone said that it was a blat, and I was so ugly, because it was not true.
When I went out to defend myself, my dad just got up and left. And then I got a Grand Prix at the Yekaterinburg Diploma Project Competition. I was so glad! Despite everything that they said about me, I won a contest, the jury of which was a cool Japanese architect Kunio Maekava.
Saule: There are so many places in Almaty that I associate with my childhood. When I was little, I liked to walk with Dad and his fellow architects to the dining room of the Writers' Union "Kalamgur". It was a whole procession. Do you know that all the architects are incredibly beautiful? Artists do not look very much. And the architects are beautiful and still stylish. Here we go, my dad and friends are dressed with needles (no one in Soviet times had any jeans, but they had) - beauty!
And my childhood is the final stop of tram No 4, which was near Gorky Park. We there often passed along Almaty, going on a visit to my father's friends, colleagues and acquaintances. It was a private sector and most of the old residents of Almaty lived here, and each such trip was a small trip.
Timur Bimashevich: My friends and colleagues - Ratushny, Mukhobotov, Volodya Kanonenko, Yuri Funkarineo, Igor Karagodin, Misha Rapoport, Itkind, Salzman ...
Saule: Makum Kisametdinov, Salekhatdin Aitbaev - it's generally good for me that he was. I did my first picturesque work in Aytbaev's studio at the age of 16. I drew it.
And my father also had an apartment in Furmanov-Kalinin. Beautiful! He composed it from a two-room, making a three-room. This space, which in fact was small, a cage, turned into something incredible!
Timur Bimashevich: I was still helped by friends who came to hollow the walls with me. We had a large kitchen and a stove (then there was no central heating). I dismantled the stove, combined the kitchen with one of the bedrooms and a very large space came out. This house was one of the houses of the "laureates" (in which the laureates lived). To get there an apartment helped me Olzhas Suleimenov, he was active and sought everything. And then I was uncomfortable for the authorities and they did not give me an apartment. When apartments for the Writers 'Union loomed (Kunayev Olzhas was very helpful, the Communists always fostered writers), Suleimenov came up with the idea that I become an employee of the Writers' Union. So with the light hand of my friend, I became an artist of the Union of Writers' Union of Artists ( laughs)). I made them wall newspapers, worked out facades, emblems. By the way, I then made them a bas-relief with a portrait of Olzhas. He was then frightened and asked to veil everything a little, but I left his characteristic movements ( smiling). We must go see it, by the way.
Saule: When I graduated in 1996, I tried to work as an architect. Not very successful. And then I decided to paint and paint. It was hard for parents to understand what I was doing. It's scary, what is it - an artist? Without a salary, without a stable income. But I, Dad, remember how at one of my first exhibitions "Love and Power" in the gallery "Ular" you said: work, if that, we support. By the way, when we met Kuanysh, my future husband, we realized that both were in the same situation, without knowing it. Only he is in Aktobe, and I'm here in Alma-Ata. He just decided not to do any more business, focusing on the work of the artist.
Timur Bimashevich: They have talent. In the child to recognize the talent easily. More precisely, it is impossible to recognize. It is quite another to make it not extinct. Much is given by the environment that surrounds the child. Surprisingly, next to you, Saule, your daughter Swinbike began to create, to seek.
The main thing is love. There can be nothing else. I like that Medinka (the youngest daughter of Saule Suleimenova and Kuanysh Bazargaliev - ed. ) Came up with: with Swainbeek, they finish any dialogue with the words "Atasha, I love you!" Or "Dad, I love you!". It's great, is it?
Photo: Olzhas Zhakenov
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IN HIS OWN WORDS

Saule Suleimenova: "I thought my dad was a magician"

Author: Gulmira_K 
 4102  0 In your OWN WORDS
Being in the art studio is already magic, and there is also a conversation with amazing people - the artist Saule Suleimenova and her father Timur Bimashevich, the president of the Union of Designers of Kazakhstan. Literally ten minutes, and you fall into captivity of interesting stories. Total - three hours of conversation about art, artists and architects, old Alma-Ata and father's love for his daughter.
Saule: I'm just sure that art is not toys, jewelry, or ponies. This is the present. And it's not necessary to invent something new. 
I subscribe to every word of the Slovenian culturologist Slavoja Zizek, who went to the garbage dump and showed that all the garbage that we produce is part of our life. This is our life. And even if we prefer to fence off from it and not notice, it does not mean that it disappears from our life. When we love a person, we love him completely and with all the shortcomings and weaknesses. We fully accept it, this is called love. So try to love yourself and your nature with all the waste, he says. Then the need for ecology disappears, which today, in its categorical and fanaticism, is more and more like a religion. Then there will be harmony.
And I'm just thinking: beauty, what is it? For example, beauty in a woman - it's not necessarily a Hollywood smile, chest and priest? For a small child who does not yet think stereotypes, the most beautiful woman in the world is his mother. You know, I was recently at the TEDx conference and there it was necessary to choose a badge with some wording - "smart", "successful" and so on. While I was walking back and forth, my daughter took for me the badge "beautiful". Do you understand? It's like that.
Beautiful is all around. All that is needed is to change the angle of view in order to see it. Today we have so many visual impressions, especially on the Internet. Every day we are rubbing something, a lot of people are imposing an opinion on what is valuable, what is beautiful. We have not even thought about it, but we've already been explained everything - what is beauty, love, happiness.
Timur Bimashevich: Saulesha - she is so open, in her - sincere cleanliness. It's like a white sheet, like a litmus paper. Everything I do is custom-made, personal, in design, in architecture, I always show it to her. I'll draw something, I immediately send it to the desk, I ask you to see it. I share with Saulesha everything, and it is very important for me to hear her opinion. In the same way, I try to perceive it. I see everything that she does, I feel and feel where this energy comes from, and so I like all this! At the same time, I'm terribly incomprehensible and astonishing is the energy that is blazing in it. And I already like this picture - this is the bike, and this road is Sauleshin's road to the future (it's a picture of Saule Suleimenova's "Kyrgyz Pastoral").
Saule: How beautiful, Dad! I always ask my dad, it is very important for me that he share his opinion. Recently he left, so I cut off the phones ( laughs ). In general, even my husband can be jealous of my father. I love him immensely. He is a magical man. I kept my childhood convinced that my dad was a magician.
He always drew. Dad is a brilliant draftsman. And when I was little, I always sat and looked at his hand. It was magic. And the only thing that I managed well was the scissors.
Timur Bimashevich:Saulesha watched and was in touch with me. And not only with me, but with my mother. It was a woman who was never calm, and here is the energy that is in Saulesh - these are grandmother's genes. She always had her hands full, she did it. She sewed magnificent blankets, and made it all almost blind (she had poor eyesight - around -18). She was engaged in patchwork sewing, what the Kazakhs call oyu өrnek, practically to the touch. Mom had some incredible flair, she knew the secret of perfection - the balance of the background and the pattern. By the way, by her ability to sew she saved us from hunger - she wore blankets and sold them. And my mother lost sight when she was about 30 years old. In those settlements where we were expelled (behind ALZHIR), malaria spread. In those days, they treated her with hina. We did not get Hina, we gave out quinine. And people get rid of quinine.
Saule: Now all the Suleimenovs on the female line have problems with sight. My dad's sisters, I have, and my oldest daughter Swinbike.
Timur Bimashevich: So, my daughter was sitting next to me at the drawing table, and on it - a pile of pencils and markers.
Saule: That's it! There were no such people in Alma-Ata. You know, they had such a good covering ability. How I loved them!
Timur Bimashevich: I collected all sorts of tools, and still I have this terrible passion and professional greed ( laughs ).
Saule: And what kind of daddy gave me luxurious tools! He always gave what you dream about and think that this is impossible. On my 16th birthday gave me an incredible set - it had pastel greasy, pastel dry, a set of watercolors, a set of oil, oil paints and watercolors, and paper torchon, and cardboard. Before that, we were walking around the workshops with my friend Almushka (Kazakhstan artist Alma Menlibaeva - editor's note ) and begging from the artists: give me that I do not mind. And here such a gift! That was incredible.
In the architectural, I followed my father. He, incidentally, did not know about this, I secretly filed the documents. I was already quite old, I was 20 years old. My friends told me then, if you are not a hopeless baleski, you will stand up and finish your studies until the end, despite the fact that studies there are very complicated.
In general, if you look at architectural education there are many progressive people. Do you know that everyone in the Pink Floyd group is an architect? Quentin Tarantino, Makarevich, many directors, musicians - by education architects. Architectural education teaches to think spatially.
And I went to act secretly, because I was afraid that my father would swear. And yet, in fact, I could not draw (and still do not know how, painting - it's about what I think pictures, and not draw). And on the introductory it was necessary to draw a plaster head. We stole a plaster head from Zhurgenovka with Almushka (it seems it was Socrates), dragged her home and trained on it. Alma taught me how to draw. And then, when I came to take exams, the teachers - my father's friends, helped me as best they could. Because I did not have an academic education, I was kicked out of art school with a scandal. So, I'm sitting, drawing, and Alim Ravilevich Sabitov passes and says: "here and here, make it darker." After Wojciechowski: "here you have a line here."
Timur Bimashevich: And the theme for your thesis you took the themes of my main work.
Saule: My father was engaged in Turkestan for 15 years, landscaping around the mausoleum of Khoja Ahmet Yassaui. And the theme of my thesis work is an ethnomorial park next to the mausoleum.
Timur Bimashevich: The hardest part was that she was defending herself, and I was the chairman of the commission.
Saule: It was horrible. My classmates, when they found out that the pope would be the chairman of the commission, announced to me a boycott. And in such a deaf psychological silence I was preparing my project. Everyone said that it was a blat, and I was so ugly, because it was not true.
When I went out to defend myself, my dad just got up and left. And then I got a Grand Prix at the Yekaterinburg Diploma Project Competition. I was so glad! Despite everything that they said about me, I won a contest, the jury of which was a cool Japanese architect Kunio Maekava.
Saule: There are so many places in Almaty that I associate with my childhood. When I was little, I liked to walk with Dad and his fellow architects to the dining room of the Writers' Union "Kalamgur". It was a whole procession. Do you know that all the architects are incredibly beautiful? Artists do not look very much. And the architects are beautiful and still stylish. Here we go, my dad and friends are dressed with needles (no one in Soviet times had any jeans, but they had) - beauty!
And my childhood is the final stop of tram No 4, which was near Gorky Park. We there often passed along Almaty, going on a visit to my father's friends, colleagues and acquaintances. It was a private sector and most of the old residents of Almaty lived here, and each such trip was a small trip.
Timur Bimashevich: My friends and colleagues - Ratushny, Mukhobotov, Volodya Kanonenko, Yuri Funkarineo, Igor Karagodin, Misha Rapoport, Itkind, Salzman ...
Saule: Makum Kisametdinov, Salekhatdin Aitbaev - it's generally good for me that he was. I did my first picturesque work in Aytbaev's studio at the age of 16. I drew it.
And my father also had an apartment in Furmanov-Kalinin. Beautiful! He composed it from a two-room, making a three-room. This space, which in fact was small, a cage, turned into something incredible!
Timur Bimashevich: I was still helped by friends who came to hollow the walls with me. We had a large kitchen and a stove (then there was no central heating). I dismantled the stove, combined the kitchen with one of the bedrooms and a very large space came out. This house was one of the houses of the "laureates" (in which the laureates lived). To get there an apartment helped me Olzhas Suleimenov, he was active and sought everything. And then I was uncomfortable for the authorities and they did not give me an apartment. When apartments for the Writers 'Union loomed (Kunayev Olzhas was very helpful, the Communists always fostered writers), Suleimenov came up with the idea that I become an employee of the Writers' Union. So with the light hand of my friend, I became an artist of the Union of Writers' Union of Artists ( laughs)). I made them wall newspapers, worked out facades, emblems. By the way, I then made them a bas-relief with a portrait of Olzhas. He was then frightened and asked to veil everything a little, but I left his characteristic movements ( smiling). We must go see it, by the way.
Saule: When I graduated in 1996, I tried to work as an architect. Not very successful. And then I decided to paint and paint. It was hard for parents to understand what I was doing. It's scary, what is it - an artist? Without a salary, without a stable income. But I, Dad, remember how at one of my first exhibitions "Love and Power" in the gallery "Ular" you said: work, if that, we support. By the way, when we met Kuanysh, my future husband, we realized that both were in the same situation, without knowing it. Only he is in Aktobe, and I'm here in Alma-Ata. He just decided not to do any more business, focusing on the work of the artist.
Timur Bimashevich: They have talent. In the child to recognize the talent easily. More precisely, it is impossible to recognize. It is quite another to make it not extinct. Much is given by the environment that surrounds the child. Surprisingly, next to you, Saule, your daughter Swinbike began to create, to seek.
The main thing is love. There can be nothing else. I like that Medinka (the youngest daughter of Saule Suleimenova and Kuanysh Bazargaliev - ed. ) Came up with: with Swainbeek, they finish any dialogue with the words "Atasha, I love you!" Or "Dad, I love you!". It's great, is it?
Photo: Olzhas Zhakenov
TAGS: art , Alma-ata , Saule Suleimenova , Timur Suleimenov , artists
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